The extra letters of Vietnamese need to be added ĂÂÊÔƠƯĐ for typing the word, also the 5 tone markers ÀÁẠÃẢ. SHould be able to do as for example my spanish lists have Ó Á ect.
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nerd
5/3/12, last update 5/22/12
(1 year ago)
To clarify when typing the words in response to question. There are small boxes for other letters not in english keyboard for spansih, frech, ect Ben could you please have added for vietnamese
Sure I can add these - just to confirm, I will add each letter with the accent on it, but exactly as you give it to me - do you want these all as upper case letters? For the tone marks, do those need to go over every letter? or just over the letter "A"? To use the current system I will need to create a button for each character that you need to have added in to the in browser keyboard. so if there needs to be tone marks for every letter, then we will need to think of a different solution.
These are the extra letter and there is alot so I understand if you don't want to add but at the same time the without right tone the word has different meaning or means something else. If someone is learning Vietnamese tones/ different vowels are absolutely essential or they will not be understood. I want to have memrise be good for this as other websites are very bad. If we can fix this somehow would be great to have letters to type(viet) and have the system know when you use wrong letter for instance đ is recognized as d in system when answer should be wrong. Love memrise have created one proper vietnamese course (all definitions correct and all audio unlike the others) if we can fix these two issues would love to create much larger courses.
Thanks letters are working so just second issue of stopping answer being correct when they use right letter but wrong tone (ex a for à) or use wrong letter (o for ơ )
The system is correct making you use correct forms of vowels and tones when typing the box below word, after you get answer wrong. BUT not working on original answer so if you spell not correctly but use similar a for â it still passes
@nerd, for Spanish that is a deliberate setting, because that is currently the way that most users find that it works well for them, and the user settings to change that are not yet live on the site. They will be soon, so that individuals can choose to be tested strictly should they want to be.
For Vietnamese though the marking should be strict on accents. I guess that means that it is not registering those as "accents" for some reason to do with how they are encoded. I will check into this for you and see what we can do to get it working properly.
I am going to find out soon whether we can do this right away for the vietnamese (ie in the next week) - that seems like an easier issue to fix. The Spanish feature will come in a bit later once we have built the user settings which will take a bit of time.
To clarify when typing the words in response to question. There are small boxes for other letters not in english keyboard for spansih, frech, ect Ben could you please have added for vietnamese
Posted by nerd 5/4/12 (1 year ago)Sure I can add these - just to confirm, I will add each letter with the accent on it, but exactly as you give it to me - do you want these all as upper case letters? For the tone marks, do those need to go over every letter? or just over the letter "A"? To use the current system I will need to create a button for each character that you need to have added in to the in browser keyboard. so if there needs to be tone marks for every letter, then we will need to think of a different solution.
Thanks,
Ben
Posted by benwhately 5/4/12 (1 year ago)đ àáạãã ăằắặẵẳ âầấậẫẩ èéẹẽẻ êềếệễể ìíịĩỉ òóọõỏ ôồốộỗổ ơờớợỡở ùúụũủ ưừứựữử ỳýỵỹỷ
These are the extra letter and there is alot so I understand if you don't want to add but at the same time the without right tone the word has different meaning or means something else. If someone is learning Vietnamese tones/ different vowels are absolutely essential or they will not be understood. I want to have memrise be good for this as other websites are very bad. If we can fix this somehow would be great to have letters to type(viet) and have the system know when you use wrong letter for instance đ is recognized as d in system when answer should be wrong. Love memrise have created one proper vietnamese course (all definitions correct and all audio unlike the others) if we can fix these two issues would love to create much larger courses.
Posted by nerd 5/4/12 (1 year ago)I have added all of those in, so let me know how it looks!
I have set the program to mark strictly on accents which I hope should solve the issue with đ - let me know if not and we can try something else.
Best wishes
Ben
Posted by benwhately 5/4/12 (1 year ago)Thanks letters are working so just second issue of stopping answer being correct when they use right letter but wrong tone (ex a for à) or use wrong letter (o for ơ )
Posted by nerd 5/4/12 (1 year ago)Hi Ben
The system is correct making you use correct forms of vowels and tones when typing the box below word, after you get answer wrong. BUT not working on original answer so if you spell not correctly but use similar a for â it still passes
Posted by nerd 5/4/12 (1 year ago)Actually same for Spanish soñar and sonar are two very different words but type sonar is accepted for soñar
Posted by nerd 5/5/12 (1 year ago)@nerd, for Spanish that is a deliberate setting, because that is currently the way that most users find that it works well for them, and the user settings to change that are not yet live on the site. They will be soon, so that individuals can choose to be tested strictly should they want to be.
For Vietnamese though the marking should be strict on accents. I guess that means that it is not registering those as "accents" for some reason to do with how they are encoded. I will check into this for you and see what we can do to get it working properly.
Best wishes
Ben
Posted by benwhately 5/5/12 (1 year ago)Thank you so much, yup without accent word can have 6 meanings and with different vowels some maybe 18 different words.
Cheers
ps for the spanish that will be amazing because the accents really change the pronunciation, can't wait to see it thanks again
Posted by nerd 5/5/12 (1 year ago)Will you be able to make this feature for vietnamese or will it wait to update much later
Posted by nerd 5/8/12 (1 year ago)I am going to find out soon whether we can do this right away for the vietnamese (ie in the next week) - that seems like an easier issue to fix. The Spanish feature will come in a bit later once we have built the user settings which will take a bit of time.
Best wishes
Ben
Posted by benwhately 5/8/12 (1 year ago)thanks for being awesome ben!
Posted by nerd 5/9/12 (1 year ago)Is it possible ben?
Posted by nerd 5/12/12 (1 year ago)Sorry, it is still going to be another few days to get the answer - I will get the answer soon though, sorry for the delay!
best wishes
Ben
Posted by benwhately 5/12/12 (1 year ago)Thank you for checking ben
Posted by nerd 5/17/12 (1 year ago)whats the word on vietnamese
Posted by nerd 5/22/12 (1 year ago)