The bug happens when an incorrect answer has been submitted in the typed-input test, when watering or harvesting. Only when Memrise prompts you to practice spelling the word again, does the bug actually occur.
Before explaining the details, I should say that this doesn't happen in Memrise German. It is a bug in the Hangul validation code, as far as I know. Here's what happens:
As soon as you type the first character (and indeed until the word is spelt correctly), the validation goes into an error state. It shows the red background and a big 'X', in other words. This should not happen.
The first character you type does not concatenate with the next character, no matter what you type. So every time you have to type something, then delete it, and begin again. Once you begin again, the characters concatenate fine.
Once you have spelt the word correctly, the validation code recognises it with a green background and a big tick. However, progressing to water the next word requires a manual click with the mouse. The enter-key shortcut is disabled.
Onto the next word in the list now. When you tryspell the next word, typed input simply does not appear. You can try clicking inside the box, but still text will not appear when you type. The only way I have found to get around this problem is to click on the web-address URL box at the top of my browser. But this creates a fifth problem.
At the exact moment that you click in the URL box, the Memrise text-input area spits out the last concatenated syllable that you typed in the previous word. So now you can type again, but only after you have deleted the syllable that the code spat out.
As you can imagine, this is a real pain. I don't think it's a browser issue, as I've had it in Firefox, Safari and Chrome. Anyone having the same problem?
-Red box until the word is finished.
-Type not showing up.
(I get around the second bug by 'minus'ing out the window and then bringing it up again. I usually have to delete some random letters but I always thought they were the letters I had typed while my typing was "invisible".)
I also have this problem (currently only on Korean though). I've tried it in Chrome and Firefox on both Ubuntu and Mac, with identical results. The red box is a fairly cosmetic problem, but not being able to enter text is quite an issue.
Cycling input methods is a reasonably expedient workaround on Ubuntu; on Mac the only solution seems to be MyHoneyfoot's trick mentioned above.
Thanks Ben. Looking forward to an update on this bug. If I had to guess, I'd say you'll see a lower churn rate in users who sign up for the Korean content. Just through fixing this one bug. It makes the UX suck a bit for Korean learners.
Any updates on this? I watered my plants today and the bug lost me some points. Memrise is awesome, and I know you will get this fixed (how hard can it be!?). But whilst it's there, it's kind of holding me back from recommending the Korean content to my friends.
Sorry, no updates yet, we are still finishing off work on the wiki. Once that is done there should be a gap in the schedule into which we can fit this. It is right at the top of the list, and I will keep putting pressure on to get it done. As always, apologies for the annoyance in the meantime,
We are working on stuff that affects it, but haven't yet started on the work focused specifically on it. That should be next week. I will keep you informed of how we get on and if we need testing. Again, I am really sorry about how long this has taken, and thank you for your patience.
Yes, I have the same exact problem, too. I thought it might just be my computer (I use the Chrome browser on a Chromebook/Chrome OS) but the first comment by MrHoneyFoot details every single problem I've had with it. I use the Korean Input Method/Romaja in the Language setting on my computer (I didn't download anything or use an input-keyboard on Memrise, if they have one). I use memrise almost every day so I know it is still doing it. Has there been any updates or progress on this issue?
I am also dealing with this problem. Chrome on Win7. I get around it by clicking the "Edit Item" dropdown at the top of the page. It pops up a new tab. Switch back to your old tab and input works fine.
I still get the error colouration when I'm part way through completing a character (e.g. to type '감', the character would go through the stages 'ㄱ' red, '가' still red, then '감' green), but this is really quite a minor annoyance.
Mr adamchainz. This problem (or a close relative) is now showing up when adding a new mem. Sometimes I have to minimize than maximize the window to be able to type Hangul into a new mem.
And I still have the problem that MrHoneyfoot described.
@Jcon Yes this an unfortunate side effect of IME input. The OS sends the character to us before you've finished typing - but we would still like the input to live update for every language.@Colin.Browne94 Sorry about the Mem editor. I will look into it soon.
Checking it again. Still using Windows XP and Chrome. The problem doesn't occur straight away. I can work/play for maybe 20 minutes then it begins to show nothing while typing Korean.
As a side question, how can the fact that the OS sends the character before we finish typing be overcome by minimizing then resetting the Google screen?
Maybe I haven't been clear enough. The original post by MrHoneyfoot has 5 parts. Part 4 and 5 are the problems that I have been mentioning in the above two posts.
So the fix adamchainz put in which works with Mac still doesn't work Chrome on XP.
There is also a new error. On the review of typing page (eg. http://www.memrise.com/cave/?iset=2000-essential-korean-words-for-beginners&plant;_filter=harvest<emplatename;=all_old_typing) if this needs to be defocussed and refocussed (eg tab away and tab back) there is the red screen with a command to retype the word plus some characters from previous typing. If I type into this area without first deleting all the text in it, then delete the superfluous text later then the screen just won't work.
"4. Onto the next word in the list now. When you tryspell the next word, typed input simply does not appear. You can try clicking inside the box, but still text will not appear when you type. The only way I have found to get around this problem is to click on the web-address URL box at the top of my browser. But this creates a fifth problem.
"5. At the exact moment that you click in the URL box, the Memrise text-input area spits out the last concatenated syllable that you typed in the previous word. So now you can type again, but only after you have deleted the syllable that the code spat out."
The variations I have found are with the different ways to get the typing to appear in 4. (minimize window then restore it, or click on another tab then back on the one you want). All of these steps seem to do something with changing the focus away from the learning page then back.
And yes, the last syllable from the previous word is then presented and has to be deleted. (MrHoneyfoot's problem 5.)
This problem now is interfering with all 3 of Memrise's unique advantages.
1. It stops any relevance of the science of spaced repetition, because the correct answers aren't being permitted to be entered, so the program is recording false errors. In fact it is working against my memory because I am associating so many mistakes from the site with the words instead of being able to vividly imagine mnemonics etc.
2. It is definitely not fun. In fact it reduces the fun. It is as much fun as a child being denied entry to an interesting toy store but being allowed to look in the window to see what they are missing out on.
3. It has and will reduce the community of people who want to use these techniques.
Looking at the site, there doesn't seem to be much which can be patented so any delay in fixing these problems only allows time for competitors to develop their alternative sites.
I think that I have narrowed the cause. Try this.
1. Go to a Korean meaning typing test page. (English to Korean)
2. Type in the incorrect Hanja for the meaning. (it has to be very incorrect, not a little incorrect)
3. Wait for the program to time out and reject your answer.
4. Go to the next word.
5. Now you should have problems inputting Hanja.
6. Change tab focus, then back to the original page.
7. The last incorrect character from the previous meaning should be showing.
Please let me know how you are progressing with this.
I am really sorry to have been so slow in posting a response to this - I have not been ignoring it, but we are focusing our efforts on getting all of these things ironed out in the v1.0 site, which is slowing the bug fixing in the beta site down. I am really sorry for the annoyance and for not replying to you sooner, and thank you very much indeed for this excellent report.