I think the HSK courses are ok, but I don't think you learn a useful amount of vocab until you've complete 1-3 at least...
As a Chinese person who grew up in the UK, I can speak the language fluently but limited to mostly domestic situations, and until year ago I couldn't read or write. I'm maybe 3/4 the way through HSK4 and I'd say I'm still a fair ways yet from being able to write what I'm can speak, but I'm learning a lot of words I've never used before too.
The 1-500, 501-1000, 1001-1500 etc. wordlists are good to work through too, as they help you get a lot of character recognition in early on. Unfortunately they only teach you to recognise characters, they don't teach you to understand words made of compound characters. Still, if you wanted to learn what people use most often, you can't go wrong with that series.
I'm finding that I'm 2/3's through the HSK3 list and 2/5 through HSK4 and I'm constantly coming across really typical words I should already know being "1000 words" deep.
So I've started to make my own lists to see what it's like to tackle that problem. My "13 Weeks of Mandarin" course contains what I would have a total beginner study in their first week. It's words, not necessarily characters, plus depdendencies. Interestingly I had only encountered even 95% of those on Memrise so far. Words like 这个 I hadn't even encountered yet!
Pink and green are a nice combination. But more than the colors I like the two creatures. The parrot is very special, she's from the wild, we found her on the street after she was hit by a car and we thought she was going to die. Very smart animal. Apart from that, I always have the feeling memrise is not keeping proportions of pics properly...
I'm only just starting off with the mems. Thanks for your big collection, there are some nice ones in there. Do you know how to edit a mem you've created?
I think right now only curators can edit mems. When you go to the page for the word, you can see all the mems made for it. When you mouse over your own do you have a blue icon to edit it? Or is that only for curators? I'm not sure. I'm sure they want creators to be able to edit their own mems.
Permissions still have problems and it seems like every mem is less readable than before due to the changes. Love this site, but it's def. worse for me than before these days, despite the constant attempts to improve it.
I just read one of your posts - congrats on crossing the million marker. Now you only have the 500 thumbs up and the 2000 words to achieve. I figure in a couple of weeks at least on of these will happen.
actually - I feel so stupid compared to people who have learned so many words with so few points. I've been adding words (about 50/70 a day) recently so I'm earning more points than usual. On an average day without any new words, watering only wilted - I could easily hit 10-15k - I 'm really bad at spelling - especially the spanish. In the morning - it takes about 30-45 minutes to clear all the wilted plants. Then - depending on the day - I'll try to pop in for 10-15 (max) minutes every 3-4 hours to clear out new wilting plants.
It does get better - for my HSK 4 - I routinely get about 20-40 words in the morning max. For the spanish courses- I need to slow down and stop making stupid mistakes. I actually wish there was some way to not get points - because I don't think I should get partial credit for getting something wrong.
For listening - have you tried watching some mandarin-dubbed korean dramas or chinese newscasts? Even if you don't understand everything that is said - you can still pick out specific words and characters from listening and reading ( or trying to) the captions. It doesn't have to be a lot - but I would recommend being consistent (10 minutes a day sort of consistent). I figured that even if I don't understand anything, at least I'm hearing the sounds (and from the newscasters - studying the shape of their mouths as they pronounce the words). I tried the music route - but I haven't found any music that I like. The stuff I've heard is too sappy for me. I like a little edginess to my music.
You're right, I am wasting energy all over the place; can't seem to get the proper order of revision going. But how else do you revise other than by using tests? The algorithm keeps resting me on certain words so I find I am aimlessly racking up points.
How many words in total for your 13 week course? Did you pull them all from hsk 1-3? Great job btw, crammed with great info, more thorough than the hsk 1 and 2 courses. Thanks :)
It's based on word frequency that some other courses use. HSK was, um, chosen a little differently than that, it seems. The review scheduling on the site isn't ideal but I guess it's probably good and then will keep improving it.
it's all appetite as u rightly pointed out and the algorithm isn't facilitating our individual relishes. i gather ur feeling overwhelmed and undermotivated? time for a break perhaps? think how u'll come back rested, fresh, invigorated and ready to perhaps even start a course with the fab new tools Ben had teased us without detail? hopefully this addresses the ennui? though i doubt. how did Ben change from being a 父 五 员 to making it about 元？he seemed so legit.
Well, it's been a ride. There are some golden things to learn from what we've all done here. No matter what happens in the future, some really cool ideas, implemented and not, came to mind during our time here. Hopefully at minimum some other projects may be inspired to start; I think the bar has been raised.